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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the top. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

DYK criteria

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How to list a new nomination

For a simplified version of these instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK.
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Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

  1. New Article, self nom: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | status=new | author=}}
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  3. New Article by someone else: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | status=new | author= | nominator=}}
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    To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)
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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on September 5

Amankila

Clyde Refinery

1983–84 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Paper clothing

William Piers (constable)

1980–81 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

1979–80 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

SMS Braunschweig

A large, light gray warship bristling with guns sits just offshore; dense black smoke drifts from its three tall funnels.


Amanjiwo

List of music concerts at the Millennium Stadium

Adolf Heyrowsky

Heyrowsky in uniform

  • x5 expension? It looks very similar to the version of it in May this year? Can you explain? It must be x5 expension in pure text (ie pics, titles, quotes, refs etc don't count) Victuallers (talk) 16:36, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


Dabar Bridge

Hungarian Crown

Portrait of King Louis I of Hungary and Poland wearing the "Hungarian Crown"

Stephen Lekapenos and Constantine Lekapenos

1976–77 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

1975–76 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

1973–74 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

1974–75 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Frank C. Garland

Sartaj Aziz

List of Major League Baseball hitters with four home runs in one game

A black and white baseball card featuring a man in a white baseball jersey and striped cap holding both hands out cupped in front of his chest.

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article meets DYK standards for length and sourcing and the hook length is fine. The online source from the Sporting News and his obituary in The New York Times both say that fans tossed $160 in coins. At the time, everything other than pennies and nickels were silver, so I don't doubt that there were silver coins included, but the wording "fans threw silver coins" could mean any number of coins. Whatever metal they were made of, $160 worth is a lot of coins and I would suggest wording it as "fans threw $160 in coins", or some variation thereof. Some mention could also be made in the hook that he was the first player to accomplish the feat. Nice article and one that it is absolutely surprising never existed before. Alansohn (talk) 05:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
  • The offline source goes to the silver bit. I avoided saying the $ value because without inflation (which starts making this long) it looks odd. The article existed before, this is an expansion nom. How's this for an alt? Staxringold talkcontribs 12:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


Arthur Roy Mitchell

ALT: ... that in 1959 the cowboy and western artist Arthur Roy Mitchell designed the centennial emblem for the 1859 Colorado gold rush?

Larry Ashmead

Jaime Cardinal Sin of the Philippines shown wearing a white cassock with a red belt and skullcap holding a microphone


2010 Pakistan cricket spot-fixing controversy

Articles created/expanded on September 4

Kulhar

Mairbek Taisumov

Diplomatic uniform

Symbol confirmed.svg OK for length, style references. Citations accepted on good faith.Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

French Royal Army (1652-1830)

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

  • I added some sections that explain more about the army itself, and I've also added some pictures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DCI2026 (talkcontribs) 06:52, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Tyonajanegen

Symbol possible vote.svg Not yet up to 1500 bytes of prose with the prose tool (only 1285 bytes now). Can it be expanded some? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes. The length should be good now. Gobonobo T C 05:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

1965–66 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

B. Frank Heintzleman

Carrier Strike Group Three

An MH-60R Sea Hawk from the "Raptors" of Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 71 performs a controlled carrier approach towards the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) during flight operations. Stennis and Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 9 are on a scheduled six-month deployment to the western Pacific Ocean.


Parodia tenuicylindrica, Parodia arnostiana, Parodia buiningii

A green cactus with several yellow flowers on a black background.

  • Note that the first two articles are expansions of one-line stubs, the other is new. J Milburn (talk) 10:45, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


1964–65 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

John Greenhill

  • Symbol question.svgWe need an inline reference per paragraph, it's really not clear where the information in the article has come from at the moment. Smartse (talk) 10:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
YesY Done The article is transcribed and edited from Dictionary of National Biography - I have added a template just to clarify. All apparently "unsourced" statements are in the DNB reference. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 10:23, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I think we still need inline citations regardless of whether it came from a PD source. Also, I saw a few weeks ago that there was a discussion on whether or not it was acceptable to use PD sources for DYK or not. Tarebia granifera (the article that was discussed) didn't appear on the main page and as that was only a couple of weeks ago, I'm not sure if this should either. Smartse (talk) 17:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Samuel Eyles Pierce

Hook is referenced to ONDB which requires subscription. Dr. Blofeld 20:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Hamilton Watch Complex

A red brick building with a clock tower.


Romstrade

1963–64 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Charles "Buffalo" Jones

Charles "Buffalo" Jones

ALT:... that Charles "Buffalo" Jones, the first game warden at Yellowstone National Park, once roped an unruly bear and spanked the animal on its rear?

Created/expanded by Billy Hathorn (Billy Hathorn talk). Self nom at 18:05, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Francis Farm Petroglyphs

Bògòlanfini

Bògòlanfini fabric


Mithya

Albany Convention Center

48 Hudson Ave Albany.jpg

Michael S. Smith (interior designer)

Censorship in Spain

  • I know this doesn't exactly fall under "censorship" as defined, but it is more or less censorship. Comments welcomed. Tommy! 14:18, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svgThat's not censorship - it shouldn't even be in the article, never mind the hook. Quite a bit of the article isn't about censorship in fact! Perhaps something about censorship under Franco, added to the article, would make a decent hook. But, article needs quite a lot of work to focus on its supposed topic to justify front page exposure. Rd232 talk 14:45, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Alright. Tommy! 14:49, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Amantaka Hotel

  • Is that so?

Torgeir Vraa

Niels Ødegaard

Parachartergus apicalis

A wasp tends treehoppers

Created by Smartse (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 12:09, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg alt1 makes me think "so what?". main hook is cool but "startling complexity", which you quote in the article, does not appear in ref 6 (not via a pdf title at least). alt2 does not have a ref right after it and does not seem to appear in ref 5. RlevseTalk 12:24, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Re alt1 - fair enough, I just found it funny reading the reference. The references for the other two are scans so a pdf title doesn't work (I don't know how google scholar manages to do title them?!). The main hook is discussed on page 296 of the reference cited, alt2 is on page 126, in the last paragraph before the discussion of this ref. I can add more reference tags if you would like but I thought one per paragraph was sufficient. Thanks for the review. Smartse (talk) 09:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


LucyPhone

Jeshua Anderson

Articles created/expanded on September 3

Peggy Ann Jones

Tirana Circus

September 2010 Quetta bombing

September 2010 Quetta bombing

The Grand Design (book)

Symbol confirmed.svg length, style and references check out. Ready to go. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:15, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Palaeovespa

Palaeovespa florissantia.jpg

  • There no apostrophe in "its"--Wetman (talk) 17:45, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Richard Etchberger

  • His medal is scheduled be presented on September 21, so it might be cool to postpone the hook till then. In which case an alt hook could be used:
Alt 1:... that United States Air Force airman Richard Etchberger will posthumously receive the Medal of Honor today? — jwillbur 06:09, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Bellevue, Schenectady, New York

Sod House Ranch

no

Created by Orygun (talk). Nominated by Orygun (talk) at 00:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)


Pancyclic graph

Daniel P. Davison

Church of St John sub Castro, Lewes, Russian Memorial, Lewes, The Finnish Prisoner

A stone drum on a stepped base below a tapering section, then a decorated box, then a cross. Around the drum are arched panels with carved writing. It stands in front of trees, some of whose branches partly obscure the decorated box. To the right is a gravestone.

  • Comment: All 3 articles moved from sandbox to mainspace on 3 September.

Created by Struway2 (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

  • If it helps: the two halves of the hook (Tsar's memorial to prisoners, story inspiring opera) appear separately in each article:
  • Same two sources in each case. Hope this makes checking easier, cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC)


Perfume cushion

Sweet-bag 16th century

  • Do they really? Has Africa Wiki - FiveAfrica.Com found the cure for insomnia? In the article, this claim is sourced to [1] and [2], which are not reliable sources. We can't run this hook.  Sandstein  22:48, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
In the article I wrote: These "herb pillows" of the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries of aromatic herbs were believed to help the advancement of sleep. The Walter book source reference says: The "herb pillows" of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries (little sacks of aromatic herbs thought to be a remedy for sleeplessness) always included lavender, clovepinks and costmary as principal ingredients. The White book source reference says: There are several herbs that have a reputation for easing insomnia, and by creating a blend of these leaves and flowers, you can make small "herb pillows" to help you sleep. I am just going by the book source references.--Doug Coldwell talk 23:51, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I titleed the article for the words "promote sleep" used in the hook and found the text "are made with sleep inducing ingredients like ... that help promote sleep", which is sourced to these unreliable sources. If the hook is to refer to the text "were believed to help the advancement of sleep", then that is exactly what the hook should say. There's a big difference between us reporting somebody else's belief that these cushions help one sleep, or us as an encyclopedia asserting that they do. See WP:NOR.  Sandstein  06:06, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT1: "... that a "dream pillow" is a type of perfume cushion filled with aromatic herbs claimed to promote sleep?" Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT2: "... that a dream pillow is believed to help the advancement of sleep?"--Doug Coldwell talk 11:45, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg ALT1 works. The other criteria are met. Symbol possible vote.svg ALT2 has the problem that "is believed" is a textbook WP:WEASEL word and shouldn't be in an article, let alone in a main page hook; besides, according to the text, they "were believed", past tense.  Sandstein  11:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


Brazilian ironclad Rio de Janeiro

Andhra Pradesh Vidhan Parishad

Jacoby & Meyers

Colonia Exhipódromo de Peralvillo

Emu-wren, Southern Emu-wren, Rufous-crowned Emu-wren, Mallee Emu-wren

drawing of two Rufous-crowned Emu-wrens

  • Comment: could make common name the link to the Emu-wren page but that'd be an easter egg link(?)

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 15:23, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

South Salem Academy

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go! The hook length and source have been verified and the article length and sourcing meets DYK standards. Alansohn (talk) 14:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

List of NME number-one singles from the 1980s

  • Symbol question.svg The article is a few hundred characters below the required 1,500. The article would benefit from some more discussion of the artists and songs that made the list, which should be readily available from sources and would easily put the article over the 1,500-character minimum for article prose. Alansohn (talk) 14:34, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Sorry about that. It is now over the 1,500 limit. I'll see if I can expand it further in future but that will do for now. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:20, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

The Most Unwanted Song

Thomas Tregosse

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Style, length all OK. Refs in good faith. But need to expand the statement "He converted" as it is not clear exactly what is meant. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 10:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Caleb Bailey

List of planetary features with Māori names

Marty Huff

Eight Bells

Sailors taking a reading

Articles created/expanded on September 2

Nicola Zerola

Nicola Zerola


Angiolina Bosio

Angiolina Bosio

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 12:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Carlo Scalzi

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Foreign language sources AGF Thelmadatter (talk) 03:15, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Craig telescope

MV Mi Amigo

Photograph of a radio ship, viewed from the starboard stern quarter

Symbol confirmed.svg Date, length, hook, and source verified. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:21, 4 September 2010 (UTC)


Dhuvjan Monastery

Brazilian ironclad Tamandaré

Jack Pitney

A blue 2006 Mini Cooper S Checkmate


Lewis Gregory

A man with dark hair and a burgundy, grey and black cricket uniform with 'Gregory 24' visible on the back is bowling a white cricket ball.


Gene Englund

HMS Aeolus (1801)

Davara

Skipper W

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg - interesting. Dincher (talk) 22:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Scouter's Key Award

  • Symbol confirmed.svg - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:10, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

C. Joseph Genster, Metrecal

  • Symbol confirmed.svg - both hooks are good to go for DYK. Dincher (talk) 22:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

John Phillips (fighter)

Movimiento 2D

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Greenbelt Cooperative Publishing Assn., Inc. v. Bresler, Dorothy Sucher

Marvin Bracy

  • Symbol question.svg The hook fact doesn't seem to have a citation/reference in the article. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Really that needs citing in the article as well then, not just mentioned here. Also Africa Wiki - FiveAfrica.Com can't cite other Africa Wiki - FiveAfrica.Com articles as sources. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • It is cited in the article. Parson's record is 10.23, Bracy ran a wind-aided 10.18. Saying that Bracy would've bettered Parson's record if it wasn't for the wind assistant, is—in my opinion—neither WP:SELF nor WP:OR. —bender235 (talk) 16:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Colonia Cuauhtémoc, Mexico City

Torre Mayor in Mexico City


Mr San Peppy

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Daniel Tabera

Luis Beltrán Prieto Figueroa

Protein pigeon homolog

  • Symbol question.svg It looks good, but I think that it could be hookier:
ALT1: ... that inhibiting protein pigeon homolog may provide a treatment for Alzheimer's disease? Brilliant! Your hook is much better. YesY Done
I think people would be more likely to click on it like that. One other thing, do we know what its function is other than to cause the formation of beta amyloid? If we do it would be good to include it. Smartse (talk) 16:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
I will see what else I can dig up on this protein and expand the function section if possible. Cheers. Boghog (talk) 19:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately not much else is known about the function of this protein. However I have expanded the article significantly to include more information on homologous genes in other species as well as more details on the size and location of the gene and the transcribed protein. Boghog (talk) 09:12, 4 September 2010 (UTC) YesY Done
I've edited your hook slightly to take out an unneeded comma. I hope that's OK. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
No objections. Looks good. Boghog (talk) 09:12, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svgALT1 is good to go. Thanks for adding more details, I can see why there isn't much information available now. I've linked inhibitor to enzyme inhibitor in the hook as I thought the average person might not understand what it means. I know it isn't perfect, but that article discusses the concept in general. Smartse (talk) 09:50, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Church of Saint Laud

  • Symbol confirmed.svg - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Labrador Sea, Northwest Atlantic Mid-Ocean Channel

Past sunset at Labrador Sea

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 05:30, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg 5x expansion of Labrador Sea verified, NAMOC is new and of sufficient length. AGF for the hook, it seems likely enough. Smartse (talk) 16:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
I suggest this slightly amended hook, as I feel that the NAMOC acronym needs to be spelled out and the original hook was missing the word "the". Also, only one item should in bold type. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Ok, maybe ALT1 is better - they both need bolding though because one has been expanded and the other is a new article. Smartse (talk) 15:54, 3 September 2010 (UTC)


Coprinopsis variegata

An egg-shaped mushroom with surface scales and forest as a backdrop.

  • Symbol question.svg All good, just suggest a small tweak of the hook:
ALT1... that scaly ink cap mushrooms (pictured) can attack and digest soil bacteria by growing hyphae that secrete digestive enzymes?
You've written that they are chemicals in the article, but could you check the source to see if they are in fact enzymes? It seems more likely to me. Smartse (talk) 16:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
I agree they are likely enzymes, but the source uses "compounds", and does not go into any detail about the nature of these compounds. I also checked the primary source, and the author does not speculate about this, so I think we should go with the generic "compounds" as in Alt2 (added slight tweak in wording to avoid repetition of "digest"). Thanks for checking, Sasata (talk) 19:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT2... that scaly ink cap mushrooms (pictured) can attack and consume soil bacteria by growing hyphae that secrete digestive compounds?
Pictogram voting keep.svg Damn NOR! Better go with ALT2 then. Smartse (talk) 19:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


1967–68 ABA season

facade of the Teaneck Armory, with a green lawn, flagpole and tracked armored vehicles in front of the building.

  • Thanks for finding the error. The link in the reference has been corrected to point to the appropriate article. Alansohn (talk) 00:50, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


Lawrence E. Roberts

African American man in full Air Force uniform

  • Symbol confirmed.svg - ready. nice article. Dincher (talk) 00:10, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! RlevseTalk 01:19, 3 September 2010 (UTC)


Ernest Spybuck

Ernest Spybuck, Absentee Shawnee Artist. ca. 1910

  • Symbol confirmed.svg RlevseTalk 01:20, 3 September 2010 (UTC)


Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Council

Articles created/expanded on September 1

King of the Ring (2006)

Main Street Historic District (Medina, New York)

A view down the center of a wide street with three-story ornate brick commercial buildings in a mix of colors on either side. At bottom center is an upside down "Only" above a curved arrow pointing right.

  • Comment: Source for fact is on p. 54 of document (going by page numbers assigned by JavaScript reading software).

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 20:10, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Wolfgang Krause

Sonia Prina

Sonia Prina

Proyecto Dos

  • Comment: A 15x expansion

5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 04:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Respect (The Bill)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Only one ref, plot section unref'd, external links not properly formatted. RlevseTalk 11:23, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Should now have more than one ref, external links now properly formatted --5 albert square (talk) 22:34, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg RlevseTalk 02:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Francis Sumner (millowner)

engraving of stately home

  • Not a comment about this hook's suitability, but I will just say that as a resident of this tiny town, this is my favourite hook ever! Paralympiakos (talk) 22:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • With regards this one, I'm a little confused. It may be because it's early and I'm a little groggy, but it seems as though the source suggests he lived at Glossop Hall WITH his mother, following his father's death. Have I misinterpreted? Paralympiakos (talk) 10:19, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, you are right... he lost his mother whilst there. Ive added "with new parents". OK? Victuallers (talk) 16:27, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Re-reading that source made me feel thoroughly stupid. I had to read it about five times to gain an understanding. My current understanding is that Ann Sumner (mother) died when Francis was a toddler. Robert Sumner (father) marries Barbara [Sumner] (now stepmother), before Robert (father) dies. Then Francis lives with stepmother and step-grandfather in Glossop Hall. Is that correct? If so, I'm happy to tick this one off. Paralympiakos (talk) 17:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Returned to original wording as it was correct Victuallers (talk) 16:05, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Changed "ended up at" to "lived at" and therefore: ready Symbol confirmed.svg


Brazilian ironclad Barroso

Petar Parchevich

A purple shield with two standing goats and a crimson band with three six-pointed stars in the middle surrounded by gold, white and purple decorative elements and topped by a gold lion rampant

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Length and date verified; Bulgarian-language references accepted on good faith. - Biruitorul Talk 20:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


Jan Błachowicz

Dawid Baziak

Scottish surnames

The Bill

  • Symbol possible vote.svg this was 71K on Aug 21, now it's 75K. No where near a 1X expansion, much less 5X. RlevseTalk 02:08, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
A 5X expansion in prose. since it's 75k you'd have to get it to 425K. Why did you think this was a 5K expansion? RlevseTalk 14:45, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
I think that the nominator meant to out forward Respect (The Bill), which was created on Sep 1. GeeJo (t)(c) • 15:40, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

1996 Football League Second Division play-off Final

Final Shot: The Hank Gathers Story

Virgil Ardelean

  • Comment: In my opinion, this particular biography of a living person requires close checking before it is appropriate as front page material. Each of the three very large paragraphs making up the bulk of the article has a single citation at its end; but I am not wholly confident that the references involved support everything said in those paragraphs. Material such as "In 1994, sensing that the Caritas Ponzi scheme was about to collapse, he ordered" seems very speculative - even if the source does support it, shouldn't it be phrased differently? Shouldn't it be made clear that one commentator or historian suggested that (in their view) the orders he gave were as a result of his beliefs about the fate of the Ponzi scheme? "The village is populated by ethnic Hungarians and Roma" - it is now? it was then? it says so in the sources? it says so in the particular source at the end of that paragraph? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:45, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Umm, as far as I can see, the article is much better referenced than just a single ref at the end of each paragraph. ""The village is populated by ethnic Hungarians and Roma" is clearly referenced in ref 1 in the present tense (i.e., it's still populated by Hungarians and Roma). While your comment about the Ponzi scheme action may have some validity, I don't really think it's a major concern, so as to require "close checking before [the article] is appropriate as front page material". This is DYK, not FAC.
  • I have reviewed the article for DYK (hook referencing, length and date) and I intend to verify it, so please reply as soon as you can if you have any further comments. TodorBozhinov 18:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Thank you both from your comments. In regard to the Caritas issue, I have added another source supporting the claim, rephrased it a little, and added Ardelean's denial that there were hidden diskettes. Everyone agrees they were titleed, but there is uncertainty about other facts, and I have tried to reflect that. In terms of what is sourced from where, every footnote refers to the text preceding it within the paragraph, so for instance the first paragraph is sourced to the Ziua article. Please let me know if I can alleviate other concerns, either here or on the talk page. - Biruitorul Talk 20:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting keep.svg All looks good. Reference for the hook AGF because I can't read that particular language. Thank you for the further improvements to, and clarifications about, the article. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

List of American Basketball Association awards and honors

  • I have read through the article and I have no issue with the length of the article and hook or any concern about the factual accuracy of the hook. My question is that we should probably avoid hooks that are basically in the form that "there are X entries on List Y", which could be generated for any list article nominated at DYK. There were so many great athletes who played in the ABA, and making some mention about the unique accomplishments of any one of the 80 basketball players mentioned in the article would probably make for a better hook. Alansohn (talk) 15:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • I think that the suggested hook is boring.—Chris!c/t 01:36, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Rena Kubota

Daniel Webster (Florida politician)

An older man is shown from the chest up, looking into the camera and smiling. He is wearing a gray suit, red patterned tie, and blue shirt. His hair is gray, and the background is a steely blue.

ALT 1: ... that Daniel Webster (pictured) was the first Republican Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives since Reconstruction?


Kucadikadi

Lucy Telles, Kucadikadi basketweaver

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:26, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Rin Grand Hotel

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Lepidophthalmus turneranus

Close-up of elongated translucent pink crustaceans with flattened, opage white claws.

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Length, hook, and date all check out, so it's good to go now. GeeJo (t)(c) • 22:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


First Māori elections, 4th New Zealand Parliament

Formal seated portrait photograph of a man in his 50s holding a patu.

  • Comment: Both articles were created in userspace and were moved to mainspace on 1 September.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Edward Mead Johnson, Mead Johnson

Electrica

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg - ready. I can't read Romanian, but I can read the numbers in the text and they seem to support the hook. Dincher (talk) 22:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Franklin Brito

The facts in this case are so in dispute that I'm not sure an WP:NPOV hook can be drafted. (For example the proposal above doesn't convey the government's position that there was no such takeover, because the disputed titles applied to land that wasn't Brito's.) It's also already included in ITN's "recent deaths". If we must have it, though, we might as well correct a substantial flaw in much of the Western media coverage, which is the impression that Brito lost his entire farm, and have some kind of hook which clarifies the dispute was over part of his farm. Rd232 talk 19:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Aziz Çami

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Date, length and ref verified. You guys had a badass king there, pulling out a gun and returning fire! :) TodorBozhinov 17:58, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Very badass! I think this fact deserves to be highlighted! I'd like to suggest an alternative hook:
ALT1 ... that when Aziz Çami tried to assassinate Zog of Albania in the Vienna State Opera house in 1931, the king pulled out his own pistol and returned fire? -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
The alternative hook sounds better so if Sulmues and Todor agree too, this hook should be used.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 22:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
It is a very much appealing hook, however it is controversial, as it seems to be a legend, not confirmed by the other killer, Ndok Gjeloshi. I'd rather have a hook that is confirmed by all parties.--Sulmues (talk) 14:22, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

St John the Evangelist's Church, Leeds

The interior of a church with an arch containing an elaborately carved screen in front of which are carved pews


value-added modeling

  • Symbol question.svg I don't see support for the ides that teachers with the lowest ratings get fired. Mention of training but not firing.

Perhaps ALT 1:that value-added modelling rates teacher performance by comparing prior and current year student test scores? Plus "modeling" is spelled wrong.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:54, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

  • The article discusses its use for teacher retention and the main source says "Though the value-added method is often used to help educators improve their classroom teaching, it has also been a factor in deciding who receives bonuses, how much they are and even who gets fired." The article will be moved to reflect the correct spelling. Alansohn (talk) 17:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Franz von Hipper

  • Pictogram voting keep.svgExpansion verified, AGF for the hook, based on the sources in the article, although a google shows it's definitely true. Smartse (talk) 14:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Escape of the Provisional Revolutionary Government

  • Double post -- Esemono (talk) 13:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

East River Road Historic District

Ornate Gothic Revival house, heavily ornamented with gingerbreading


Aktio-Preveza Undersea Tunnel

Labia minor

  • Comment: For once, it's nice to be able to benefit from the confusion this animal's name provides!

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 07:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Haha, I think the hook can be improved though:
ALT1 ... that Labia minor are chocolate-brown, up to 7 mm long, and equipped with pincers? Smartse (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svgBrilliant. Both hooks are approved - love the suggestive, but not so suggestive picture. Clamshell Deathtrap (talk) 11:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
In the alt hook, I've replaced "have" with "equipped with"; see parallelism (grammar). Nyttend (talk) 21:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Fantastic! :) Is this an example of labia dentata? -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't think it is inaccurate to use "have" instead of "equipped with" and it makes the hook a lot more interesting. I'd suggest changing it back Smartse (talk) 15:57, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Inaccurate, no. Ungrammatical, yes. Proper parallelism requires that the bits between commas be easily rearrangeable; it's fine to say "Labia minor are...equipped with pincers", but not fine to say "Labia minor are...have pincers". Nyttend (talk) 22:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Harris Dental Museum

A small white brick building with windows on each side of the front door

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


Jacob Mayer

  • Symbol confirmed.svg - interesting article and great hook. Dincher (talk) 22:40, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 31

Iximche

Two stone temple platforms in a grassy area

Kelli Scarr

Kelli Scarr playing at Melkweg, 14 July 2009


Julius Curry

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Date, length, refs, and hook verified.4meter4 (talk) 06:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Lucas Duda

fine, I'll rephrase both hooks below:

Domenico Annibali

Domenico Annibali

Adelaide Borghi-Mamo

Adelaide Borghi-Mamo

French ironclad Océan

A three-masted warship with its sails furled. The top of the funnel is barely visible over the forecastle.


French ironclad Suffren

Reinert Torgeirson

Children of the Stars

  • Comment: Image requested from director/producer. Awaiting reply.

Created by Ling.Nut (talk). Self nom at 07:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Swastika (Germanic Iron Age)

Mont Pleasant, Schenectady, New York

Pensacola and Atlantic Railroad

A little more concise:

... that in 1881, Florida granted 2.8 million acres of public land to the Pensacola and Atlantic Railroad to build a rail line that ended the Panhandle's isolation from the rest of the state? Textorus (talk) 07:23, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

COSMIC cancer database

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Verified, I've removed "freely available" from the hook as I can't see the particular relevance of it. Smartse (talk) 17:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

1952 Winter Olympics

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Abaz Kupi

Podgorica–Shkodër railway

Bajzë Rail Station

USCGC Point Arden (WPB-82309)

Edward A. Gisburne

Round portrait of a stern-faced young man dressed in a suit.

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Date is verified, but the article seems to be a bit short of 5x+ expansion. The last pre-expansion version[4] measures to about 1100 characters of prose, whereas the current version measures to about 4950 characters of prose. It seems that you are about 500 characters short of 5x+ expansion. Maybe some-one else could re-check the character count, but if you could expand the article by around an extra 500 characters in the next 2-3 days, that would certainly solve the length problem. Nsk92 (talk) 17:05, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
    • Hmm, I'm using the prosesize script which gives quite different numbers. Anyways, I added about 1000 characters so it should meet the requirement whichever tool you use. — jwillbur 22:10, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
  • OK, thanks. I used this tool[5] for computing the prose-length; in any event the prose length is certainly OK now. There is still one minor issue with verification of the hook fact. The second term of service after the leg amputation mentioned in the hook is the one during WWII. It is mentioned in the first paragraph of the section "World War II and later years". However, there needs to be an extra footnoted ref in that paragraph. At the moment the only in-line ref there occurs at the end of that paragraph, after the sentence about Gisburne's son being killed in the war. I'd like to see an extra in-line ref earlier in the paragraph as well, where the service of Edward Gisburne is mentioned. Nsk92 (talk) 05:47, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


Leymah Gbowee

George Alexander Parks

Governor George Alexander Parks of Alaska Territory

Comment: An example of what can happen after your boss assigns you to escort a group of dignitaries. --Allen3 talk 22:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Hipposandal

Hipposandal

Oops, sorry. I hand't noticed that requirement. I'll try to beef it up a tad. Thank you! Rama (talk) 06:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Should be a bit better now. Thank you. Rama (talk) 06:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go now Thelmadatter (talk) 16:00, 3 September 2010 (UTC)


Ancient Church Orders

X-Men: First Class (film project)

Plön Castle

Ploenerschloss0206.jpg


St Michael's Church, Cowthorpe

A stone church with a prominent embattled west tower incorporating a large arch, and the relatively small body of the church beyond it

  • Symbol confirmed.svg - ready. Dincher (talk) 01:22, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


Lords of Finance

Alternative hook - ... that the only book that Fed Chairment Ben Bernanke recommended to understand the financial crisis of 2007–2010 was the Pulitzer Prize winning Lords of Finance by Liaquat Ahamed? Remember (talk) 12:55, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Walter Powell (politician)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Length, references and style all OK. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 12:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I've changed balloon > hot air balloon Smartse (talk) 17:22, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I've also moved the article to be (politician) rather than the dates. Smartse (talk) 17:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Jacob Bigeleisen

  • Symbol confirmed.svg - ready. Dincher (talk) 01:26, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Qemal Butka

... that architect Qemal Butka was actively a philatelist while being the mayor of Tirana? Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 16:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Jersey Circus

James Pierrepont Greaves

¿Por Qué Te Tengo Que Olvidar?

Black-spotted whipray, brown whipray

A brown, diamond-shaped ray with black spots and a whip-like tail, in shallow water next to a pier


William W. Evans

Symbol confirmed.svg Verified. Clamshell Deathtrap (talk) 09:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: I think it would be nice to specify which nation, not just have "the nation". --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:54, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Very good idea. I've changed it - hopefully that's okay with Strikehold. Clamshell Deathtrap (talk) 01:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Pete Ladygo

  • Symbol confirmed.svg - ready. Dincher (talk) 01:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

1689 Boston revolt

Governor Andros a prisoner of Bostonian rebels in 1689.

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 04:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg The last line of the article, which supports that the Dominion of New England was dissolved, is not cited. ALT 1 is OK. Thelmadatter (talk) 16:03, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
  • I added a source from "Chronicles of America" that supports the dissolution line. Thanks for letting me know. DCI2026 (talk) 01:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Is the article good to go and, if so, what hook are we going to use?DCI2026 (talk) 00:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


George V. Chalmers

Man in 1930s vintage football equipment without helmet cocks back throwing arm with football in hand


Kannagawa Hydropower Plant


Mill Creek (Lake Erie)

A large, concrete tube with a creek flowing into it.

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg - ready. Dincher (talk) 01:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


Ghiyasu'd-Din Naqqah

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on August 30

Ignace Poretsky

  • Symbol question.svg Generally OK, but there are a few issues with WP:LEAD compliance: The lead's assertion that it was the NKVD who assassinated him is the obvious assumption, but it is not referenced and not supported by the body of the article, where we only learn that he was found dead on a road, with no information about who killed him. The years in the lead should not be wikilinked. "Great Illegals", also in the lead, is unreferenced and needs explanation: it's not clear what made him either great or illegal. – Two other nitpicks that do not preclude a DYK: Wikimapia is not a reliable source, and footnotes 2 and 9 have formatting issues.  Sandstein  07:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Added a citation for the NKVD assassins, delinked the dates, referenced the "Great Illegals" and fixed footnote 2 and 9 -- Esemono (talk) 10:31, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Excellent (though "(1899-1937)" still has wikilinks). But could we have an explanation somewhere what "Great Illegals" means, or omit it? Otherwise the reader will expect this intriguing term to be explained somewhere in the article.  Sandstein  11:51, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
How about the new change? -- Esemono (talk) 12:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Looks good! All criteria met.  Sandstein  12:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Terra sigillata

201005151401 NE CSM Aretinische TS.jpg

Symbol confirmed.svg Most thorough! I've left a few comments on the article talk page, but these are aimed more at getting the article to GA and do not prevent the article from appearing in DYK.  Sandstein  08:11, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Bavi Edna Rivera

1946 National League tie-breaker series

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Verified, nice expansion. I never knew that. --NortyNort (Holla) 12:58, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Neosho class monitor

A very low-freeboard warship in a river. It has a very prominent gun turret near the bow, a funnel amidships, and a covered sternwheel at the rear.


Inez Haynes Irwin

A black and white, head and shoulders photograph of a woman

5x expanded by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 08:05, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

John A. Kirkwood

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Date and length verified, hook length OK, hook fact verified. Nsk92 (talk) 17:35, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Senostoma

  • Comment: Kind of an experimental hook. Quite a few parasitoid creatures out there, and I thought that maybe the less said, the better. "Kill? Host? Who, emerge for what?!" Rather than, "Oh, just another fly larva inside a beetle..." Open to ALTs, of course, though think the parasitoid habit is probably the best material to use. Maedin\talk 07:52, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Maedin (talk). Self nom at 07:52, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Groom kidnapping

Created by Ekabhishek (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 01:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Verified. I like the original the best, I made a few small tweaks to it. Also, I am not sure if the "g" in groom should be capital. --NortyNort (Holla) 13:02, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Ivan Gannibal

Portrait of Ivan Gannibal, 1780s

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Date and article length verified. However, the hook is too long: even not counting (pictured), the hook is 264 characters long, which is well above the 200 character limit set by WP:DYK rules. The hook needs to be considerably shortened. Nsk92 (talk) 18:20, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

let's try this again, shorter this time at 192 characters -- Y not? 21:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Better, but still too long. According to this character count tool[7], this hook is still 214 characters long (that's without counting the word '(pictured)'; with the word '(pictured)' it is 225 characters). I am not sure how you got 192; when the length of the hook is counted, every character, including spaces and punctuation is included, starting with 'that' and ending with '?'. Nsk92 (talk) 00:52, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
  • dammit, I used Word and inadvertently looked at the wrong line. I've got it down to 199. Sorry, I'm rusty, I haven't had a DYK in years.
  • Symbol confirmed.svg OK, thanks. ALT2 hook verified. Date and article length verified, hook length OK, hook fact verified (the hook fact ref is in Russian, but I checked that it does indeed support the hook fact). I have removed the stub tag from the article, since DYK articles are not supposed to be marked as stubs. Nsk92 (talk) 01:34, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


825th Tank Destroyer Battalion

  • Question So how many houses did the other 824 Tank Destroyer Battalions destroy?TSRL (talk) 22:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Bombing of Singapore (1944–1945)

Created by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the check. I prefer the first of the two hooks, but am happy if the uploading admin thinks that the second works better ;) Nick-D (talk) 11:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Anthony Roberts (basketball)

White Boar

- which is a bit of a hyperbole, as a couple of dozen cannonballs and other stuff helped too. Or:

Åre Old Church

Åre Old Church

I didn't think they were that old...impressive So Pictogram voting keep.svg Victuallers (talk) 16:31, 3 September 2010 (UTC)


Agustarello Affré

Ada Adini

St Mary's Church, South Cowton

A stone church seen from a slight angle, with an embattled tower on the left, the nave in the centre, and the chancel on the right


Reger-Chor

Treaty of Bonn

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Verified. Offline reference AGF.--NortyNort (Holla) 13:07, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

French ironclad Marengo

Viktor Nemkov

Francisco Drinaldo

Hamilton H-47

The last surviving Hamilton H-47 airliner

  • ALT2... that according to Isthmian Airways, their 1930s Hamilton H-47 floatplanes provided "the fastest transcontinental service in North America", a 30-minute flight across the Panama Canal Zone?TSRL (talk) 18:49, 3 September 2010 (UTC)


David Einhorn (rabbi), Har Sinai Congregation

Photo of Rabbi David Einhorn


Princess Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1888-1913)

  • Comment: Added bold mark-up to article title. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:54, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

HMS Chatham (1812)

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg New enough, long enough, hook is referenced in article, interesting hook (it had me thinking for a few seconds...) Offline references AGF --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

George Garrard

Safet Butka

Isaac and Miria

Created by Itzjustdrama (talk). Self nom at 14:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Neither suggestion here has any real-world context. Simply stating that they're characters in a novel is not enough. DS (talk) 14:05, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I didn't know that could be a problem. How about *ALT 2: ... that Isaac Dian and Miria Harvent are characters of the Baccano! light novels and anime, set in the Prohibition-era United States, but also appear in the Durarara!! anime, set in modern Tokyo? 'Course, I don't know if that's very interesting ~Itzjustdrama ? C 14:22, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
That's actually better, yes. DS (talk) 23:04, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
No tick mark for alt two? ;P ~Itzjustdrama does not equal a Drama Llama 16:38, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

John Franklin Alexander Strong

Black and white portrait of man with white wavy hair and handlebar mustache wearing a dark suit and white shirt with wing collar


Danish Golden Age

C.W. Eckersberg: Woman Standing in Front of a Mirror, 1841


Haverfordwest election, 1571

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg AGF as off-line reference  Francium12  15:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Suoi Chau Pha

Azotobacter

Azotobacter cells viewed in an optical microscope Instant pudding
Ice cream sundaes Ice Cream Dessert

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 11:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg I've reviewed this and everything is fine but think we need to add "alginic acid from" in between that and Azobacter in the hook since the bacteria themselves aren't used in the puddings and ice creams. Smartse (talk) 14:07, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Nah - I think it's fine as is, perfectly accurate and no need to dilute the hook with extra words. You can equally say that a saw is used in the production of wooden objects, or whatever. Le Deluge (talk) 18:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
    Adding alginic acid would make the hook more accurate but less intriguing, thus fewer people would be interested to read the article. I think it is one of those cases when the hook doesn't need to describe all details. Materialscientist (talk) 21:40, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Ok then, we'll go with how it is. Smartse (talk) 09:32, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


Rice production in Romania

  • Symbol question.svgThe reference for the claim in the hook is to a title facility ([8]), is there another source that could be used to reference this? Smartse (talk) 14:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
    • I didn't know that the FAOSTAT website is like that. I've put a new source. BineMai 15:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
The reference still points to the same site and a title facility can't be used as a reference. I've had a look for another source that could be used but haven't had any joy. Smartse (talk) 09:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Done. Finally :) BineMai 14:55, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, but now the article needs changing, since the reference says production was 14,000 tons rather than 49,000. Smartse (talk) 18:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
The production was indeed 14,000 but in 1994. I put that reference not for the figure itself but to ilustrate the ranking. BineMai 19:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg ALT1 is fine. Smartse (talk) 16:04, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

1957 Maryland Terrapins football team

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Reference checks out fine  Francium12  14:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Bob Topp

Spot-fixing

Walter Eli Clark

Black-and-white head-and-shoulders portrait of a clean shaven man with dark hair in an early 20-th century business suit

  • Symbol question.svg Can you provide a source which says he was President?  Francium12  22:51, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Redundant reference has been added to save reviewer from having to look to the end of a two sentence block that is supported by a single source. --Allen3 talk 23:04, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Stay civil :-) Sometimes it is easy to miss a reference when you're reviewing  Francium12  14:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

List of NME number-one singles from the 1970s

A black-and-white photograph of four males playing in a band; one drummer, two guitarists and a vocalist.


Articles created/expanded on August 29

Shirlee Emmons

St. Luke's Hospital, Rathgar

Note, this was created through AFC 29-Aug, and this nom is slightly over 5 days old, but please give it consideration; as the author is a brand-new user, I would appreciate this being given a fair chance; it is my own fault it was not submitted earlier, due to my absence for a few days.  Chzz  ►  15:23, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Angiomyolipoma

K2K experiment

Your Coffee Cups

Adelaide Malanotte

Adelaide Malanotte

Scouter's Training Award

  • Comment: Four of five, or perhaps all five, of the citations justifying the hook statement, are perhaps self-published sources? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:58, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
None of the citations are self-published. Five are sourced from organization's website. Sixth is from individual who did retitle on this subject. Ericalford (talk) 20:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Further comment: Also, about 90% of the prose content of the article appears to be directly copy and pasted FROM those sources.... --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:01, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
There aren't a lot of sources on this topic. I'll contact the creator about the copy issue. RlevseTalk 19:52, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Only content directly copied were list of requirments for earning the award. As these are requirement, I did not see how they could be deviated from or changed. Ericalford (talk) 20:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Well, I still think it would be more appropriate if the hook were a fact that does not come directly from the (large) part of the article that is copied and pasted from the organization's own website. But maybe others view it differently. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg - looks good to me. Dincher (talk) 23:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Aboriginal Memorial

Sverre Krogh (Nazi)

al-Mabda', Iraqi Communist Party (1960), Daud as-Sayegh, Ittihad ash-Sha'ab, Associations Law

Lorne Kidd Smith

Mei Yamaguchi

Promise Neighborhoods

Mimi Lo

Le Castle Vania

Hamilton Hill, Schenectady, New York

Alexander Pendarves

  • Member of which Parliament? Or mention he was a Cornish MP or something. Le Deluge (talk) 18:54, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Megaliths in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern

Dolmen near Lancken-Granitz


Tom Beckman

  • The 30 years isn't that interesting (and long service is implied by a relatively senior job), it would be nice if it was something along the lines of "was in charge of new vehicle launches at General Motors when XXX model was launched"? Helps bring it home to people if they can link him to something they see on their streets every day. Le Deluge (talk) 10:15, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, the source does not identify a specific model or list of models. If the 30 year part is a concern, we could go with the following alt hook:
  • 30 years isn't a concern, just a bit dull. Even if the specific source doesn't say what models he was responsible for, it would not be WP:OR to say that on the one hand he was in charge of new models between 1999 and 2004 (or whenever), and a separate source to say that GM released model X in 2001 and model Y in 2002. A hook could reasonably say that models X and Y were released whilst he was in charge of new models. OTOH, it would be WP:OR to say that he was in charge of releasing models X & Y. Like I say, I just thought it might make it a bit more tangible if you can relate him to something people are familiar with. Le Deluge (talk) 01:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • I appreciate the effort to come up with an improved hook. However, the source that says Beckman was in charge of new vehicle launches here does not identify specific models, nor does it specify the range of years when he held the position. Accordingly, there is no reliable hook to tie the hook to specific models. I think the original hook is pretty good. It's unusual for a football player to reach such a level with one of the world's largest (until a few years ago THE largest) corporations. Cbl62 (talk) 14:48, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Valerie Bettis

Andy Anderson (baseball)

George Roubicek

827th Tank Destroyer Battalion

  • ALT1:... that when first ordered into combat in 1945, the 827th Tank Destroyer Battalion of the US Army had three men shot in brawls before it even left camp?
  • Comment: I personally prefer the second, but I'm not sure how best to phrase it to make it clear they shot each other, rather than encountering opposition surprisingly early...

Created by Shimgray (talk). Nominated by Shimgray (talk) at 00:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg I've tweaked the first hook slightly. Age, length, and hook verified. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 15:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Freedom of the press in Ukraine

  • Symbol question.svg Length and date verified, but proposed hook is not supported by the reference. The reference states that Ukraine received a "partly free" rating in 2007, but does not mention its previous ratings. I think the other fact mentioned in the reference is more interesting:
"... that Ukraine is considered to have the greatest freedom of the press of all the former Soviet Union states?"
--Cryptic C62 · Talk 16:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Well the section Rankings (in the article) gives refs for the claim (just click on the maps of Freedom House given in the ref). But your alternative line is more interesting Smiley.svg. Fine with me which one of the two get elected to be DYK!
Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 23:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
I think the alt hook is more interesting.—Chris!c/t 01:48, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah, I hadn't noticed the more detailed discussion of the ratings in the body of the article. I just hit Control+F and titleed for "never" and only found the one result in the lead. Nevertheless, it appears that there is consensus that the alternative hook is more interesting, so I consider this Symbol confirmed.svg good to go! --Cryptic C62 · Talk 02:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

J.D. Short

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Length and date verified, offline ref accepted in good faith. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 01:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
..or indeed ALT1: ... that the American singer, J.D. Short, sang the blues after he had both of his testicles shot off? Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Either hook is absolutely fine with me. Mucho ouch or tee hee to both versions, depending upon your mood. Incidentally, if the offline reference mentioned is Henry Townsend's autobiography, A Blues Life, then extracts are available at Google books ([9]) - if this helps. Thank you.
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:13, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg I think you meant "even" instead of "odd" for the hook. Also, that seems to only apply to the "tasōtō" pagoda which should be cited in the hook if it doesn't apply to all. Got my info here.--NortyNort (Holla) 13:29, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
No, I really meant odd. Tō, with the exception of the tahōtō, have 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 or 13 tiers. You must have misread the article Tō at JAANUS. Quote from JAANUS' article Sekitou:
Like timber pagodas, tou 塔, stone pagodas always have an odd number of stories.
Or else see the photos and count. The tahōtō is the single exception.Frank (Urashima Tarō) (talk) 14:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg No need, I got a little confused. I think one of those pictures could accompany the hook as well. --NortyNort (Holla) 03:02, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Gene Alderton

Gil Chapman

LeFleur's Bluff State Park

Legislative Assembly of Jammu and Kashmir

Black Betsy

Wilford Bacon Hoggatt